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Post by Tigers GM on Nov 16, 2009 4:30:04 GMT -5
Addtionally, is $10M still the cutoff for a free agent compensation offer by the former owner being 2/3? Curious why the cutoff at 10M, doesn't that make the aforementioned 9M player more expensive? Seems difficult to justify making this stop at 10M (sorta like our US Wage Taxation tier system that no one likes, "You mean you're giving me a raise, but I'm going to get less money per paycheck?").
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Post by Orioles GM on Nov 16, 2009 7:01:02 GMT -5
YOu dont get reduced 2/3, you just need that much for compensation with players making more than $10 million
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Post by Tigers GM on Nov 16, 2009 8:59:14 GMT -5
YOu dont get reduced 2/3, you just need that much for compensation with players making more than $10 million Ok, however you want to state it, a 9 million dollar player costs 9 million, and 8 million dollar player costs 8 million, but a 10 million player costs 6.667 million? Why the break at 10M?
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Post by Phillies GM on Nov 16, 2009 9:03:57 GMT -5
A 10 million player doesn't "cost" 6.667 million, he costs 10 million. But a player who earned 10 million last year only requires a bid of 6.667 million for player's old team to receive compensation. That's all this rule says. As far as the gap (a 9 million player needs a 9 million bid for the team to receive com, but a 10 million player needs a 6.667 million bid), I think it separates the players who were top paid guys last year because they were actually good and therefore the teams losing them deserve to get a pick out of it, from the cheap relievers who are only type A because Elias is weird and therefore shouldn't get that same handicap.
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Post by Tigers GM on Nov 16, 2009 9:13:14 GMT -5
I'm not sold that an arbitrary number of 10M does that, but que sera. I was just curious.
Please view my two posts at the bottom of page 3 in this thread, I'm still wondering about compensation rules for some of my players.
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Post by jumperjah on Nov 16, 2009 9:20:32 GMT -5
1) Do I declare that I get compensation? 2) Can I post a bid that is already lower than the highest bid thus losing the player? 3) Do I have to make a higher bid, potentially winning a player I don't want? Here's how I read it, and the commish can weigh in as well: Basically, you have to at least attempt to bring the person back. That said, I would say you probably can't make a lower bid (Q #2), since that would be an invalid bid if it were for any other player than your own. Once the player reaches the number they need to for compensation, you send the commish a PM letting him know it happened. (Q #1) And I don't know about Q #3.
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Post by Phillies GM on Nov 16, 2009 9:22:12 GMT -5
I think that Jordan actually said that as long as the annual value of the contract is more than the player made last year, then you don't have to make a bid yourself to receive compensation.
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Post by Orioles GM on Nov 16, 2009 10:49:00 GMT -5
I think that Jordan actually said that as long as the annual value of the contract is more than the player made last year, then you don't have to make a bid yourself to receive compensation. Correct
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Post by Orioles GM on Nov 16, 2009 11:00:53 GMT -5
Alrodis Chapman is not eligible, he has not signed a contract yet.
Please only start a new thread for a player that is on the list for that section. PM me if you think I missed someone, or want to add someone that you think may be eligible.
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Post by codyransom on Nov 16, 2009 13:43:09 GMT -5
So on Mike Cameron the bid is 2y/4m
I can legally offer 1/4.5 correct?
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Post by Phillies GM on Nov 16, 2009 13:50:16 GMT -5
correct.
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Post by codyransom on Nov 16, 2009 13:58:18 GMT -5
Is there a set minimum increment? Do I have to up the total value by at least .5 M for example?
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Post by Orioles GM on Nov 16, 2009 14:00:22 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by codyransom on Nov 16, 2009 14:02:00 GMT -5
Dope.
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Post by Tigers GM on Nov 16, 2009 14:34:17 GMT -5
I appreciate it, Phillies and Orioles. Any thoughts on this post: ...Also, for compensation purposes, shouldn't we make the value of that all bids the 1 year salary equivalent? For example, say a players REAL MLB salary is 9M per year and the current winning bid is a 2 year bid of 15 million. But that's 2 years at 7.5 million (which would trump any 1 year at less than $9.375M) So though the $7.5 Million per year is less than the 9M salary that would require draft pick compensation, it's actually greater than a 1 year bid of $9.1M that WOULD give compensation. I would say in this scenario, the winning bid is one that gives the former owner draft pick compensation. What say you all?
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